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Wednesday, November 03, 2004

What Can I Say? We Blew It.

Though it is yet to be official, George Bush has won another election. This blows my mind, but there must be a good reason. If you know what that is, please tell me. I can't begin to tell you how utterly dissappointing this election has been, but maybe this conversation with Oveis will help.

jayGTC: how did your candidate do?
asoveis: he broke some records for the district
jayGTC: nice work buddy.
asoveis: this is fucking crazy
jayGTC: yeah, I can't believe it.
jayGTC: I’m heartbroken
jayGTC: I don't understand this country
jayGTC: and now I’m thinking graduate school.
asoveis: bush is one hell of a lucky bastard
jayGTC: yeah, I just don't get it though. How can people buy into the Rove/Cheney fear rhetoric?
jayGTC: when they live in middle America
jayGTC: i guess they do hate the gay community
jayGTC: and love guns
jayGTC: fucking Christians, evangelical's and rednecks in general
asoveis: it's amazing. in my district, we hear so much shit about abortion and gay marriage--you'd think it was the only thing.
jayGTC: wow, well, i mean you are in a blue state, we've completely lost the rest of the country. We are the margins. minus the northern Midwest states
jayGTC: literally and figuratively.
jayGTC: so where do we go from here?
asoveis: keep fighting
jayGTC: did you watch any CNN?
jayGTC: James Carville made me want to cry
jayGTC: he looked so devastated
asoveis: there were some great things for the left that came out of this election. and people should be psyched for that, but naturally, people are going to be upset and start pointing fingers.
asoveis: that Edwards speech was dreadful
jayGTC: yeah, it was. It never seemed direct. We need a fucking cowboy. Where are we gonna get a liberal cowboy?
jayGTC: can't be Hillary, we won’t win any new votes due to her sex
jayGTC: or Edwards
jayGTC: and Obama won't be ready
jayGTC: its going to be all McCain in 08
asoveis: or Rudy
jayGTC: god forbid.
jayGTC: i think we would stand a better chance against Rudy
jayGTC: he is a putz
asoveis: absolutely
jayGTC: his good morning America slip last week.
jayGTC: i thought that would help us.
asoveis: McCain would almost be impossible to beat
jayGTC: that's my feeling
asoveis: that was a huge slip
jayGTC: he is untouchable.
jayGTC: and he loves censorship!
asoveis: but there are a whole bunch of important republican who don't like him
jayGTC: we are in a complete cultural and sociological regression.
jayGTC: oh really, well, right now I’m just worried about the supreme court.
asoveis: i guess you could say so
jayGTC: we are fucked there.
asoveis: one of the pundits last night was going on about how we have more in common with Saudi Arabia and Nigeria than we do with western Europe and Japan. and he could be right
jayGTC: that's a dangerous statement
jayGTC: especially with our international diplomacy all askew
jayGTC: well, in any event, now that your dust can finally start to settle, you going to be making any stops to our borough in the near future?
asoveis: yeah, macchia and i should be in soon. any big shows coming up?
jayGTC: lemme check.
jayGTC: well, muse is Tuesday at Webster.
asoveis: wow
jayGTC: then next Thursday is arcade fire/dirty on purpose
jayGTC: at bowery
jayGTC: that’s what I’m looking forward too.
asoveis: awesome
jayGTC: otherwise, nothing huge.
jayGTC: everything is hitting that post cmj lull.
asoveis: oh yea
jayGTC: this weekend is Notre dame v. Tennessee
jayGTC: so I’ve got big hopes.
asoveis: that's big
jayGTC: yeah, man, poor action, dude must be pulling his teeth out after last night.
jayGTC: he was so hyped up on Monday
jayGTC: but i guess we all are
asoveis: yea, but there are some things to look forward to
jayGTC: losing my virginity and what not.
asoveis: ha
jayGTC: what do we have to look forward too?
jayGTC: we have lost control of all three divisions of government
jayGTC: legislative, executive, and once the appointments start... judiciary
asoveis: listen, four years ago, when bush won the first time around, the left realized that is 30, 40 years behind in its infrastructure. We didn't have the think tanks, didn't have the network of small donors, and didn’t have a large base of activists. The left made huge strides in the past four years in terms of catching up to the right. and last night was just another reality check
jayGTC: werd. I understand that, but this crippling blow isn't going to help us reach out to new voters. That’s my problem. This term "young conservative" i thought they were a dying breed... and after yesterday's emphasis on the young vote, i thought it was all but won. Then things like Ohio happened.
asoveis: people are going to remained involved and active, and as far as I’m concerned, that can only be good for our democracy
jayGTC: I just don't know how we can take the vote away.
jayGTC: I guess we just have to continue to educate
asoveis: yea, it's all about selling a message
asoveis: and the left just hasn't been doing it since Vietnam
asoveis: there hasn't been a message for the left. And the right has been very, very successful at selling theirs
jayGTC: yeah, I know, and I’m glad the electoral process went off better than it did four years ago, that gives me a little faith in our "democracy" but it still doesn't feel legit.
jayGTC: yeah, I just hope we don't get caught up in cold war esque politics... especially with Iran and North Korea on the horizon
jayGTC: at one point, bush is going to want to deal with those
jayGTC: and if we are still in conflict in four years (which is likely) then things won't look good for whoever is on our cutting block.
asoveis: yea, there are a whole lot of things we should be afraid of
asoveis: more international conflicts
jayGTC: exactly, but at the same time are they necessary fears?
asoveis: the supreme court
jayGTC: i mean yeah, the latter is scary as hell.
asoveis: i think they're necessary fears
jayGTC: bye bye civil liberties.
asoveis: but bush goes about handling those fears in a crazy, crazy way
asoveis: yea
jayGTC: yeah, they are, I just mean, is the int'l perception of the U.S. able to be mended?
asoveis: the environment will go down the drain
jayGTC: and even more so, does the administration care?
asoveis: federally-funded science research will dry up
jayGTC: oh, don't get me started about the environment.
asoveis: yea, we're fucked in that way
jayGTC: i'm saying we need to tap into Alaska. Unfortunately, it could be time.
asoveis: i don't know.
jayGTC: fed-funded research in terms of... the environment?
jayGTC: or healthcare and everything?
asoveis: no, stem cell
jayGTC: oh, well, maybe the supreme court will change the ruling on the presidential requirements and the Terminator will take office.
asoveis: i think it'll happen
asoveis: he'd win big time too
asoveis: who knows, he could actually be a good president
jayGTC: yeah, which is ridiculous, but all you have to do is harkens back to old Ronnie boy.
jayGTC: we love a movie star.
jayGTC: yeah, he is pro-choice
jayGTC: he is pro gun control, right?
asoveis: he's a good compromise
asoveis: yes, pro gun control
asoveis: pro environmental regulations
asoveis: he's a good compromise for both sides
jayGTC: yeah, just another partisan politician wearing the right color tie. but is he cut out for it?
asoveis: who knows
jayGTC: anyway dude, I’m going to run, but thanks for listening.
jayGTC: stay positive.
asoveis: you too
jayGTC: and congrats.
asoveis: thanks
jayGTC: this conversation just wrote my blog entry
asoveis: excellent
asoveis: talk to you later
jayGTC: peas.

6 Comments:

Anonymous said.

HAHAHA..YOU LOST!

11/03/2004 11:53 AM  
jayloose said.

thanks. now watch our country nose dive you ignorant prick.

11/03/2004 12:20 PM  
Anonymous said.

the good reason is because Kerry only talked about his time in war...he was breeded to become President...so maybe you should actually educate yourself about the situation instead of simply forming your opinion on the what your "indie" city friends think...

11/03/2004 4:33 PM  
jayloose said.

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11/03/2004 4:52 PM  
jayloose said.

what the shit are you talking about and why the fuck would you use my blog as a forum to try to watch your dick get bigger. fucking christ. you are really a piece of ass. educate myself? i think you just used the phrase "breeded for." You fucking grammatical shitbrain. breeding for president? do you know who just won the election. damn, get over yourself. listening to my "indie" city friends opinions is one of the only things that keeps me sane. fucking think for yourself you conformist. fucking eh, a german politician said we as a country are on our way to fundamentalism. look the word up, and then realize we're fucked.

11/03/2004 4:56 PM  
Anonymous said.

well, it's interesting to consider that the regions marked by support for bush are also those with a lower average i.q. among its populace than those which showed support for kerry. it's good that these stupid people exist, i think, considering the great vocabulary they flex when using words like "breeded". maybe that has something to do with anonymous and other bush supporters being "inbreeded". scat

11/03/2004 6:23 PM  

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